Oct. 26th, 2020 12:46 am
Yuletide 2020 Letter
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Hello! It seems it’s that time of year again! Where does the time go? My AO3 is summerdayghost. If you would like anything in this letter clarified or have any questions feel free to ask through the mod. I hope you have a wonderful Yuletide!
Likes
Terrible people in love
Drifters
Violence
Blood
Bruises
Casefic
Fluff with disturbing subtext
Horror presented as fluff
Straight up horror
Straight up fluff
Fridge horror
Roadtrips
Character study
Guilt
Anger
Begging
Taunting/Teasing
Dirty talk
Internal Conflict
Villain or criminal AUs
Historical AUs
Complicated and/or messed up relationships
Codependency
Loyalty
Being brought over to the dark side
Dramatic irony
All levels of consent
Manipulative relationships
Secrets
Dirtybadwrong
Power dynamics
Power imbalance
Mentor/protégé
Grand gestures (both of the poorly and well received variety)
Understated love
Oral sex
Frottage
Riding
Roleplay (the more tongue and cheek while also kinda sincere the better)
Characters being put on pedestals they can’t live up to
Frantic fully clothed take me now sex
Slow deliberate love making
Possessive sex
Cuddling
DNWs
Recreational drug use (alcohol and cigarettes are fine as are depictions of drug addiction)
Watersports/scat
Bestiality
Unrequested m/f
Unrequested trans headcanons
Unrequested ace headcanons
a/b/o
Explicit sexual content featuring characters under the age of 14
Ships involving real life serial killers
Reader inserts
Mindhunter (TV 2017)
Jim Barney
Jim is definitely the character I want to see more of most. I was disappointed when Gregg was hired instead of him and delighted when he returned in season two. If we would have gotten a season three I would have hoped to have seen him join the BSU. Future fic where he does join the BSU would be cool.
Character study! Tell me more about what he’s like? What is his life like outside of work? Does his wife want him dead? A question I only ask because Jim Barney seems to have been at least partially based on Judson Ray, and his wife tried to have him killed. The line about his wife insisting on cooking him breakfast may have been a nod to this. So I’ll leave it up to you if Jim Barney is in a situation similar to that of his real life counterpart. Another thing that I feel fits with the theme of this paragraph would be fleshing out his backstory.
Case fic! I feel this is a really good canon to do casefic for. So Jim trying to solve a case or maybe even conducting an interview. Note on my explicit sexual content featuring characters under the age of 14 DNW: I am perfectly fine with it if you write case fic where there are victims younger than that with a sexual aspect to the crime. You can get as gross or fucked up with the case as you want, I just don’t want a straight up sex scene.
Slash fic! I’m cool with basically any slash pairing featuring Jim that doesn’t violate my DNWs. So, Jim/Holden! The main idea coming to mind for me with that is something growing between them in Atlanta. Also, psychopath/serial killer Holden is not where I would have wanted the show to go, but it is an idea I like to see explored in fic. I would read the hell out of Holden going off the deep end and Jim having to be the one to track him down. Jim/Bill! Maybe them growing closer after Nancy leaves Bill. Or maybe AU where Jim was hired instead of Gregg in season one (not sure why that sticks in my head as a Jim/Bill prompt specifically because that could work with other pairings or gen but hey). Jim/Gregg! I don’t have any plot ideas for that beyond the fact that I’d be interested to see what that would look like. One thing I will say is that I’ve seen it theorized that Gregg is gay but deeply closeted. While I am not one hundred percent sure if that is what they were going for, but I can see it enough that if they took the character in that direction it would have worked I think. So if this is the pairing you choose you could probably explore that.
Talented Mr Ripley (1999)
Marge Sherwood
Revenge of the Hitchcock Blonde. That’s the phrase that immediately pops into my head when I think about what I would want to see from Marge. One element of the film I appreciate more every time I see it is how much it is in conversation with the work of Alfred Hitchcock. I tend to think of Marge in the context of the Hitchcock Blonde archetype. The sophisticated blonde woman who must be knocked down, humiliated, degraded, or hurt somehow over the course of the plot. This came from a deeply fucked up place of obsession when you look into it. I am conflicted over whether or not it can be said Marge manages to flip this on its head or not. On one hand I feel that Marge manages to keep her dignity despite Tom putting her through a pretty awful breakup while pretending to be Dickie, but on the other hand she does not get to be triumphant either. I love that she figured him out and flips out at him at the end, but no one believes her due to sexism and thus ends up being held down anyway. So long babbling aside anything you could do with Marge that explores or twists the Hitchcock Blonde archetype would be A+. Also if you wanna write crossover femslash with any of the ladies from Hitchcock films (blondes or not) I’d be all for it.
Post canon fic could be pretty cool. I’ve seen it said that despite the film having a pretty definitive ending compared to the one of the book that basically has a sequel tease, it still feels like a villain origin story for Tom. I would say the same about Marge. This feels like an origin for her as well, although I don’t know exactly of what sort. I’ll leave it up to you what she becomes as the result of this. I’d definitely read about her going down a darker path although, I’ll be honest when I say that’s not the first place my mind goes. Her being Tom’s nemesis who continues to run into him and attempting to thwart his criminal plans could be rad. Or any direction you can think of that I haven’t. And another thing for post canon fic, how does she respond to the death of her friend Peter?
Femslash! Aside from aforementioned crossover femslash, Marge/Meredith is my first thought in this department. Maybe a fic starting the first time they see each other post canon. Or canon divergence where they run into each other in Italy at the point in the story where Dickie is dead but Marge thinks he dumped her instead of Meredith running into Tom. How might that have changed things? Another possible pairing is Marge/Silvana. I don’t know what that would look like but I’m here for it. The only ways I can imagine putting them together are canon divergence AUs. Maybe Silvana doesn’t commit suicide and that somehow leads to her getting together with Marge. Or AU where Marge was the one having an affair with Silvana. Or an AU where Marge leaves Dickie for Silvana. My side question is if any of these AUs would be fix-its for the Tom/Dickie situation or if things would go to murderous hell anyway, just differently?
Note on my unrequested m/f ship DNW: I have no problem with Marge/Dickie being a thing just like in canon. Although my interest in that relationship here starts and ends with how it informs Marge’s characterization. I don’t care about that relationship for its own sake.
You (TV 2018)
Joe Goldberg
Note on my reader insert DNW: feel free to write this fic in second person if you want. It fits the canon and I don’t consider second person fic to inherently be reader insert fic.
I am not a generally easy person to scare with fiction. It is exceedingly rare that I come across a fictional character that scares me. I find Joe Goldberg scary though. He’s just so creepy and alarming. I also find him interesting to dissect probably for all the reasons I find him disturbing. Anyway I invite you to terrify me. There’s a ton of different one on one dynamics I’d be interested in so you’ll have plenty of choices for what to write here (it also makes this section longer than the others which is not indicative of preference or anything, I’d be happy to receive any requested fandom, I just have more to say here). Of course that means this is about to get all over the place. Hopefully this’ll look organized to people who aren’t me.
Pre-canon fic exploring his dynamic with Mr. Mooney. I get the impression that a lot of Joe’s ideas about love come from Mr. Mooney. Primarily in that Joe seems to be under the impression that love is taking complete control over the life of another person and altering it as he sees fit and that person should be nothing but grateful because that’s what loving back is, which is a perspective that I think can easily be traced back to when Mr. Mooney first took him in. Also the cage seems pretty significant. You can explore this in a fucked up gen way or a fucked up slash way. Also was Joe telling Beck the truth about Mr. Mooney’s stroke or did Joe do something to him?
I loved Candace so much. I found what her presence in season two highlighted about Joe’s state of mind and how completely he can turn on a former obsession (Madonna-Whore Complex much?) interesting and I was so much on her side. Something looking at their precanon relationship would be cool. What didn’t we see? What are the odds she was calling him bunny as in bunny boiler? Also with how intensely he turned on her after she came back, do you think it could have ever been possible for his romantic obsession for her to return? If so, then canon divergence AU where that happened either when she confronted him in New York or at some point in LA. How would he have dealt with those feelings returning and how would Candace have responded to that given her trauma? If not, then canon compliant stuff about his perspective on her now that she isn’t the object of his obsession would be cool (possibly with themes of love and hate being two sides of the same coin). Another direction is AU where she got him arrested, either precanon or after Beck’s death. How would he have fared in prison? Also wouldn’t be opposed to an AU where Candace doesn’t die and continues to haunt him (or fic where she doesn’t die and haunts him as a ghost). If you can fit in Wuthering Heights references for anything involving Candace hell yes.
If you wanna go into his relationship with Beck the one prompt I have is stuff that explores the difference between Beck, the fantasy, and Beck, the actual person. He had such a difficult time reconciling the fact that she was an actual person that I don’t think he ever fully did. It was a part of why he had to kill her.
If you wanna go into his dynamic with Love what I would be most interested in would be post-season two stuff where Joe is suffering. What the ending of season two made very clear to me is that Joe does not actually want love. Pun intended. I mean, Love was perfect for him and accepted him unconditionally, and he was disgusted by her not even seeing the irony about what he hated in her. A huge part of what probably threw him off the Love Quinn train after discovering what sort of person she truly is is that this put her on equal ground with him and he doesn’t want that. Joe doesn’t want true love and partnership. He wants a fantasy. He wants control. So what that household looks like now that Joe desperately wants out would be interesting to see.
Joe’s relationship with Ellie! He definitely cared about her in his way, was definitely thinking about her safety when analyzing Love but at the same time he intervened in her life essentially to make himself feel like a hero in such a way that she resents him. Joe craves redemption and the ability to feel like a good person. He does good things to convince himself he’s good but whether it is actually enough is questionable at best. I think that sort of thing provides good narrative tension, and his dynamic with Ellie is a good place for that sort of thing. What will be their dynamic going forward? Is she really in Key Largo and if so will she ever come back? If she isn’t actually in Key Largo then where is she and why? One thing I want to point out about the situation Ellie ended up in at the end of season two, basically on the streets but with Joe financially supporting her, is that Joe himself was on the streets when he was younger. Will Joe be able to keep Fincher off her trail? One AU that could be interesting is an AU where Ellie was the one Joe ended up obsessed with in LA instead of Love. Would that mess with him and his need to feel like a good person or would he be able to cognitive dissonance his way through it? How would Ellie have responded to that kind of attention from Joe? Hell, how would Delilah have responded to this?
Speaking of kids Joe took under his wing to feel like a better person but probably did a lot of damage in the process, Paco. Fic set during or before season one where Joe is looking out for Paco. Fic where they interact before Paco moves to LA but after Beck’s death. Future fic where Paco reappears in Joe’s life with how Paco has turned or now that he’s a little bit (or a lot bit depending on how far in the future this) older. I wouldn’t mind if that last one was slashy.
I’m not usually the sort that goes for OC/canon character fic, but since Joe is so completely ruled by his obsessions throwing something new at him provides a chance for character study. Also since we know so little about the woman at the end of season two, fic involving her might as well be OC fic. Anything that throws Joe off balance or put him in unfamiliar territory is something I would be interested in seeing. One direction to go is the one I suggested with the Joe/Ellie AU, where the new object of his obsession is a minor (I mean we could see that wasn’t the case with the actual woman at the end of season two but for the sake of fanfic we can pretend). Would that mess with his self image as a good person or would he be able to creepily justify it? A completely different direction you could go in is what if this new woman never reciprocates his affections. How would Joe handle that? I can see that getting pretty fucked up and scary because I think it’s pretty safe to say that Joe is an erotomaniac. One that’s been fortunate enough to consistently turn the dream of that other person loving him into reality, but still. So there’s a good chance if he were in that situation he’d refuse to fully believe she just isn’t into him. One more completely different direction to take the concept of Joe/OC is Joe falling for a man. I’m assuming he’d be a Rule 63 version of the woman at the end of season two but he doesn’t strictly have to be if you have other ideas. I’m just curious what that would look like, if that would have any impact on how he chooses to pursue his love interest, and how he would feel about being obsessed with a man. If you have any other ideas for how to use the season three love interest who is essentially an OC at this point to shake Joe up go for it. Also this has nothing to do with the character dynamics but each season is essentially supposed to be set in a new little world. I assume season three’s world will be the suburbs, but I’ve heard the third book is going to be set in the Pacific Northwest. Joe kidnapping his love interest and going on a road trip to the Pacific Northwest is definitely a plot I’m here for.
Likes
DNWs
Fandoms
Mindhunter (TV 2017)
Talented Mr Ripley (1999)
You (TV 2018)
Hello! It seems it’s that time of year again! Where does the time go? My AO3 is summerdayghost. If you would like anything in this letter clarified or have any questions feel free to ask through the mod. I hope you have a wonderful Yuletide!
Likes
Terrible people in love
Drifters
Violence
Blood
Bruises
Casefic
Fluff with disturbing subtext
Horror presented as fluff
Straight up horror
Straight up fluff
Fridge horror
Roadtrips
Character study
Guilt
Anger
Begging
Taunting/Teasing
Dirty talk
Internal Conflict
Villain or criminal AUs
Historical AUs
Complicated and/or messed up relationships
Codependency
Loyalty
Being brought over to the dark side
Dramatic irony
All levels of consent
Manipulative relationships
Secrets
Dirtybadwrong
Power dynamics
Power imbalance
Mentor/protégé
Grand gestures (both of the poorly and well received variety)
Understated love
Oral sex
Frottage
Riding
Roleplay (the more tongue and cheek while also kinda sincere the better)
Characters being put on pedestals they can’t live up to
Frantic fully clothed take me now sex
Slow deliberate love making
Possessive sex
Cuddling
DNWs
Recreational drug use (alcohol and cigarettes are fine as are depictions of drug addiction)
Watersports/scat
Bestiality
Unrequested m/f
Unrequested trans headcanons
Unrequested ace headcanons
a/b/o
Explicit sexual content featuring characters under the age of 14
Ships involving real life serial killers
Reader inserts
Mindhunter (TV 2017)
Jim Barney
Jim is definitely the character I want to see more of most. I was disappointed when Gregg was hired instead of him and delighted when he returned in season two. If we would have gotten a season three I would have hoped to have seen him join the BSU. Future fic where he does join the BSU would be cool.
Character study! Tell me more about what he’s like? What is his life like outside of work? Does his wife want him dead? A question I only ask because Jim Barney seems to have been at least partially based on Judson Ray, and his wife tried to have him killed. The line about his wife insisting on cooking him breakfast may have been a nod to this. So I’ll leave it up to you if Jim Barney is in a situation similar to that of his real life counterpart. Another thing that I feel fits with the theme of this paragraph would be fleshing out his backstory.
Case fic! I feel this is a really good canon to do casefic for. So Jim trying to solve a case or maybe even conducting an interview. Note on my explicit sexual content featuring characters under the age of 14 DNW: I am perfectly fine with it if you write case fic where there are victims younger than that with a sexual aspect to the crime. You can get as gross or fucked up with the case as you want, I just don’t want a straight up sex scene.
Slash fic! I’m cool with basically any slash pairing featuring Jim that doesn’t violate my DNWs. So, Jim/Holden! The main idea coming to mind for me with that is something growing between them in Atlanta. Also, psychopath/serial killer Holden is not where I would have wanted the show to go, but it is an idea I like to see explored in fic. I would read the hell out of Holden going off the deep end and Jim having to be the one to track him down. Jim/Bill! Maybe them growing closer after Nancy leaves Bill. Or maybe AU where Jim was hired instead of Gregg in season one (not sure why that sticks in my head as a Jim/Bill prompt specifically because that could work with other pairings or gen but hey). Jim/Gregg! I don’t have any plot ideas for that beyond the fact that I’d be interested to see what that would look like. One thing I will say is that I’ve seen it theorized that Gregg is gay but deeply closeted. While I am not one hundred percent sure if that is what they were going for, but I can see it enough that if they took the character in that direction it would have worked I think. So if this is the pairing you choose you could probably explore that.
Talented Mr Ripley (1999)
Marge Sherwood
Revenge of the Hitchcock Blonde. That’s the phrase that immediately pops into my head when I think about what I would want to see from Marge. One element of the film I appreciate more every time I see it is how much it is in conversation with the work of Alfred Hitchcock. I tend to think of Marge in the context of the Hitchcock Blonde archetype. The sophisticated blonde woman who must be knocked down, humiliated, degraded, or hurt somehow over the course of the plot. This came from a deeply fucked up place of obsession when you look into it. I am conflicted over whether or not it can be said Marge manages to flip this on its head or not. On one hand I feel that Marge manages to keep her dignity despite Tom putting her through a pretty awful breakup while pretending to be Dickie, but on the other hand she does not get to be triumphant either. I love that she figured him out and flips out at him at the end, but no one believes her due to sexism and thus ends up being held down anyway. So long babbling aside anything you could do with Marge that explores or twists the Hitchcock Blonde archetype would be A+. Also if you wanna write crossover femslash with any of the ladies from Hitchcock films (blondes or not) I’d be all for it.
Post canon fic could be pretty cool. I’ve seen it said that despite the film having a pretty definitive ending compared to the one of the book that basically has a sequel tease, it still feels like a villain origin story for Tom. I would say the same about Marge. This feels like an origin for her as well, although I don’t know exactly of what sort. I’ll leave it up to you what she becomes as the result of this. I’d definitely read about her going down a darker path although, I’ll be honest when I say that’s not the first place my mind goes. Her being Tom’s nemesis who continues to run into him and attempting to thwart his criminal plans could be rad. Or any direction you can think of that I haven’t. And another thing for post canon fic, how does she respond to the death of her friend Peter?
Femslash! Aside from aforementioned crossover femslash, Marge/Meredith is my first thought in this department. Maybe a fic starting the first time they see each other post canon. Or canon divergence where they run into each other in Italy at the point in the story where Dickie is dead but Marge thinks he dumped her instead of Meredith running into Tom. How might that have changed things? Another possible pairing is Marge/Silvana. I don’t know what that would look like but I’m here for it. The only ways I can imagine putting them together are canon divergence AUs. Maybe Silvana doesn’t commit suicide and that somehow leads to her getting together with Marge. Or AU where Marge was the one having an affair with Silvana. Or an AU where Marge leaves Dickie for Silvana. My side question is if any of these AUs would be fix-its for the Tom/Dickie situation or if things would go to murderous hell anyway, just differently?
Note on my unrequested m/f ship DNW: I have no problem with Marge/Dickie being a thing just like in canon. Although my interest in that relationship here starts and ends with how it informs Marge’s characterization. I don’t care about that relationship for its own sake.
You (TV 2018)
Joe Goldberg
Note on my reader insert DNW: feel free to write this fic in second person if you want. It fits the canon and I don’t consider second person fic to inherently be reader insert fic.
I am not a generally easy person to scare with fiction. It is exceedingly rare that I come across a fictional character that scares me. I find Joe Goldberg scary though. He’s just so creepy and alarming. I also find him interesting to dissect probably for all the reasons I find him disturbing. Anyway I invite you to terrify me. There’s a ton of different one on one dynamics I’d be interested in so you’ll have plenty of choices for what to write here (it also makes this section longer than the others which is not indicative of preference or anything, I’d be happy to receive any requested fandom, I just have more to say here). Of course that means this is about to get all over the place. Hopefully this’ll look organized to people who aren’t me.
Pre-canon fic exploring his dynamic with Mr. Mooney. I get the impression that a lot of Joe’s ideas about love come from Mr. Mooney. Primarily in that Joe seems to be under the impression that love is taking complete control over the life of another person and altering it as he sees fit and that person should be nothing but grateful because that’s what loving back is, which is a perspective that I think can easily be traced back to when Mr. Mooney first took him in. Also the cage seems pretty significant. You can explore this in a fucked up gen way or a fucked up slash way. Also was Joe telling Beck the truth about Mr. Mooney’s stroke or did Joe do something to him?
I loved Candace so much. I found what her presence in season two highlighted about Joe’s state of mind and how completely he can turn on a former obsession (Madonna-Whore Complex much?) interesting and I was so much on her side. Something looking at their precanon relationship would be cool. What didn’t we see? What are the odds she was calling him bunny as in bunny boiler? Also with how intensely he turned on her after she came back, do you think it could have ever been possible for his romantic obsession for her to return? If so, then canon divergence AU where that happened either when she confronted him in New York or at some point in LA. How would he have dealt with those feelings returning and how would Candace have responded to that given her trauma? If not, then canon compliant stuff about his perspective on her now that she isn’t the object of his obsession would be cool (possibly with themes of love and hate being two sides of the same coin). Another direction is AU where she got him arrested, either precanon or after Beck’s death. How would he have fared in prison? Also wouldn’t be opposed to an AU where Candace doesn’t die and continues to haunt him (or fic where she doesn’t die and haunts him as a ghost). If you can fit in Wuthering Heights references for anything involving Candace hell yes.
If you wanna go into his relationship with Beck the one prompt I have is stuff that explores the difference between Beck, the fantasy, and Beck, the actual person. He had such a difficult time reconciling the fact that she was an actual person that I don’t think he ever fully did. It was a part of why he had to kill her.
If you wanna go into his dynamic with Love what I would be most interested in would be post-season two stuff where Joe is suffering. What the ending of season two made very clear to me is that Joe does not actually want love. Pun intended. I mean, Love was perfect for him and accepted him unconditionally, and he was disgusted by her not even seeing the irony about what he hated in her. A huge part of what probably threw him off the Love Quinn train after discovering what sort of person she truly is is that this put her on equal ground with him and he doesn’t want that. Joe doesn’t want true love and partnership. He wants a fantasy. He wants control. So what that household looks like now that Joe desperately wants out would be interesting to see.
Joe’s relationship with Ellie! He definitely cared about her in his way, was definitely thinking about her safety when analyzing Love but at the same time he intervened in her life essentially to make himself feel like a hero in such a way that she resents him. Joe craves redemption and the ability to feel like a good person. He does good things to convince himself he’s good but whether it is actually enough is questionable at best. I think that sort of thing provides good narrative tension, and his dynamic with Ellie is a good place for that sort of thing. What will be their dynamic going forward? Is she really in Key Largo and if so will she ever come back? If she isn’t actually in Key Largo then where is she and why? One thing I want to point out about the situation Ellie ended up in at the end of season two, basically on the streets but with Joe financially supporting her, is that Joe himself was on the streets when he was younger. Will Joe be able to keep Fincher off her trail? One AU that could be interesting is an AU where Ellie was the one Joe ended up obsessed with in LA instead of Love. Would that mess with him and his need to feel like a good person or would he be able to cognitive dissonance his way through it? How would Ellie have responded to that kind of attention from Joe? Hell, how would Delilah have responded to this?
Speaking of kids Joe took under his wing to feel like a better person but probably did a lot of damage in the process, Paco. Fic set during or before season one where Joe is looking out for Paco. Fic where they interact before Paco moves to LA but after Beck’s death. Future fic where Paco reappears in Joe’s life with how Paco has turned or now that he’s a little bit (or a lot bit depending on how far in the future this) older. I wouldn’t mind if that last one was slashy.
I’m not usually the sort that goes for OC/canon character fic, but since Joe is so completely ruled by his obsessions throwing something new at him provides a chance for character study. Also since we know so little about the woman at the end of season two, fic involving her might as well be OC fic. Anything that throws Joe off balance or put him in unfamiliar territory is something I would be interested in seeing. One direction to go is the one I suggested with the Joe/Ellie AU, where the new object of his obsession is a minor (I mean we could see that wasn’t the case with the actual woman at the end of season two but for the sake of fanfic we can pretend). Would that mess with his self image as a good person or would he be able to creepily justify it? A completely different direction you could go in is what if this new woman never reciprocates his affections. How would Joe handle that? I can see that getting pretty fucked up and scary because I think it’s pretty safe to say that Joe is an erotomaniac. One that’s been fortunate enough to consistently turn the dream of that other person loving him into reality, but still. So there’s a good chance if he were in that situation he’d refuse to fully believe she just isn’t into him. One more completely different direction to take the concept of Joe/OC is Joe falling for a man. I’m assuming he’d be a Rule 63 version of the woman at the end of season two but he doesn’t strictly have to be if you have other ideas. I’m just curious what that would look like, if that would have any impact on how he chooses to pursue his love interest, and how he would feel about being obsessed with a man. If you have any other ideas for how to use the season three love interest who is essentially an OC at this point to shake Joe up go for it. Also this has nothing to do with the character dynamics but each season is essentially supposed to be set in a new little world. I assume season three’s world will be the suburbs, but I’ve heard the third book is going to be set in the Pacific Northwest. Joe kidnapping his love interest and going on a road trip to the Pacific Northwest is definitely a plot I’m here for.
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